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Beer (sort)Average Score (sort)No. Samples (sort)
Clarence & Fredericks - Golden AleExcellent3
Wimbledon - Quartermaine IPAExcellent1
Fallen - Chew ChewExcellent1
By The Horns - Lambeth WalkExcellent1
Brockley - Pale AleGood1
Kelham Island - Hippy ChickGood1
London Beer Factory - Beyond the PaleGood1
Whitstable - Black LagerGood1
Okell's - Castletown PaleGood1
Triple fff - Alton's PrideGood1
Adur - VelocityGood1
Hastings - Hastings BlondeGood1
Westerham - Spirit of Kent XXX Pale AleGood1
Kinver - Half CenturionGood1
Timothy Taylor - LandlordAcceptable1
Franklins - Pudding StoutAcceptable1
Moorhouse's - Old BossAcceptable1
Adnams - BroadsideNot Tried0
Purity - Pure GoldNot Tried0
Royal Tunbridge Wells - Royal Best BitterNot Tried0
Dorking - DB Winter RubyNot Tried0
Sambrook's - Pumphouse Pale AleNot Tried0
London Fields - Love Not WarNot Tried0
Kissingate - Smelter's StoutNot Tried0
Kissingate - Toffee CogNot Tried0
Sambrook's - WandleNot Tried0
Twickenham (also uses sub-brand Old Hands) - Gothick DarkNot Tried0
East London (ELB) - Pale AleNot Tried0
Kelham Island - Pride of SheffieldNot Tried0
Everards - Truman's RunnerNot Tried0
Florence - Titfer (branded as A Head In A Hat Brewing)Not Tried0
Ascot - Alligator AleNot Tried0
Westerham - Grasshopper Kentish BitterNot Tried0
Adur - Black WilliamNot Tried0
Kent - CobnutNot Tried0
Twickenham (also uses sub-brand Old Hands) - VanguardNot Tried0
Ha'Penny - Hewitt's Un-hung HeroNot Tried0
Slater's - Sorachi AceNot Tried0
Kent - Bramling Cross Single HopNot Tried0
Whitstable - Oyster StoutNot Tried0
Hogs Back - T.E.A.Not Tried0
Loddon - Gravesend Shrimpers BitterNot Tried0
Brains - BitterNot Tried0
Slater's - Black IPANot Tried0
Cottage - Morgan Plus 4Not Tried0
Weltons - Horsham PaleNot Tried0
Twisted Oak - Old BarnNot Tried0
Loddon - WhirlwindNot Tried0
Rother Valley - RWBNot Tried0
Adnams - Southwold BitterNot Tried0
Adnams - American Style IPANot Tried0
Downton - QuadhopNot Tried0
Lymestone - Nose to the GrindstoneNot Tried0
Gipsy Hill - BeatnikNot Tried0
Oakham - Bird BrainNot Tried0
Bespoke - Brass MonkeysNot Tried0
Surrey Hills - Shere DropNot Tried0
Gipsy Hill - SouthpawNot Tried0
Rudgate - Innovation Ales Brew No. 20 Kafir Lime Wheat BeerNot Tried0
Dark Star - HopheadNot Tried0
Redemption - Urban DuskNot Tried0
Thornbridge / Thornbridge Hall - Otter's TearsNot Tried0
Gloucester - Red PineNot Tried0
Grafton - Rymes of Robyn HoodNot Tried0
Picture 1. The Grape & Grain, Crystal Palace, Greater London
Picture 2. The Grape & Grain, Crystal Palace, Greater London
Picture 3. The Grape & Grain, Crystal Palace, Greater London
Chris Excell

Visits Details

06 Aug 2017 (Philip Pirrip)
Evening until 10.30pm close. Echoingly empty. Feels a little jaded to me in the interregnum prior to Wetherspoon doing whatever it will be doing here. Bit of life just before closing time when some of the barmaids took to a bit of formation dancing on the main floor!
BeerABVScoreNotes
Fallen - Chew Chew6.00Excellent£4.90 pp hurts. Really rich salted caramel milk stout. A half might have been better but I drank just the one pint over half an hour or so
Dark Star - Hophead3.80Not Tried
Adnams - Southwold Bitter3.70Not Tried
Redemption - Urban Dusk4.60Not Tried
Thornbridge / Thornbridge Hall - Otter's Tears6.00Not Tried
Gloucester - Red Pine3.60Not Tried
Grafton - Rymes of Robyn Hood4.50Not Tried
27 Oct 2016 (Philip Pirrip)
Evening until 11pm close. Barman said he thought final closure date would be 4th December after which Wetherspoon would gut and do their business. Pub was all inventively dolled up for Halloween too. Good to see bottled Worthington White Shield on sale but at £4.60.
BeerABVScoreNotes
Wimbledon - Quartermaine IPA5.80ExcellentGood strong bitter but £4.30 pp is central London in the suburbs
Hogs Back - T.E.A.4.20Not Tried
Surrey Hills - Shere Drop4.20Not Tried
Adnams - Southwold Bitter3.70Not Tried
By The Horns - Lambeth Walk5.10Not Tried
Triple fff - Alton's Pride3.80Not Tried
Gipsy Hill - Southpaw4.20Not Tried
Rudgate - Innovation Ales Brew No. 20 Kafir Lime Wheat Beer3.80Not Tried
20 Jan 2016 (Philip Pirrip)
Evening. Swing Patrol weekly event with several couples dancing to recorded jazz music. I visit less often now the CAMRA discount has been withdrawn and the Westow House, over the road, still does give a discount.
BeerABVScoreNotes
London Beer Factory - Beyond the Pale4.20GoodFully hopped, a bit cloying on the palate
Hogs Back - T.E.A.4.20Not Tried
Adnams - Southwold Bitter3.70Not Tried
Adnams - American Style IPA4.80Not Tried
Downton - Quadhop3.90Not Tried
Lymestone - Nose to the Grindstone4.30Not Tried
Gipsy Hill - Beatnik3.80Not Tried
Oakham - Bird Brain4.10Not Tried
Bespoke - Brass Monkeys4.20Not Tried
23 Mar 2015 (Philip Pirrip)
Evening until close. Chance find that the last knockings of a beer festival was taking place with all real ales £1 pp. These were all on gravity off wooden stillage and all pumpclips on the bar counter handpumps were turned round. Had been 20 beers but only 6 left on offer. Giveaway beer and a superb jazz band playing live. Luxury.
BeerABVScoreNotes
Kinver - Half Centurion5.00GoodHazy but tasty
Kelham Island - Hippy Chick8.00GoodNightcap juice - complex flavours
Moorhouse's - Old Boss4.30Acceptable
Twisted Oak - Old Barn4.50Not Tried
Loddon - Whirlwind4.40Not Tried
Rother Valley - RWB4.40Not TriedRuby Wheat Beer
06 Aug 2014 (Edbeck)
Busy for midweek.
BeerABVScoreNotes
Clarence & Fredericks - Golden Ale3.80Excellent
Triple fff - Alton's Pride3.80Good
09 Mar 2014 (Philip Pirrip)
Evening. Prices seem to have gone up here to Central London levels - the CAMRA discount makes them acceptable.
BeerABVScoreNotes
Whitstable - Black Lager4.70Good£4.10 pp
Timothy Taylor - Landlord4.30AcceptableToo fresh. £3.90 pp
Whitstable - Oyster Stout4.50Not Tried
Hogs Back - T.E.A.4.20Not Tried
Loddon - Gravesend Shrimpers Bitter4.10Not Tried
Brains - Bitter3.70Not Tried
By The Horns - Lambeth Walk5.10Not Tried
Clarence & Fredericks - Golden Ale3.80Not TriedThe fastest mover here tonight
Slater's - Black IPA5.00Not Tried
Cottage - Morgan Plus 44.00Not TriedRan out
Weltons - Horsham Pale3.70Not Tried
26 Jun 2013 (HSB)
12:30 First visit here. I was in the area looking for somewhere for lunch and this place read well in the GBG. Very impressed. About a dozen in.
BeerABVScoreNotes
Adur - Velocity4.20Good
Hastings - Hastings Blonde3.90Good
Clarence & Fredericks - Golden Ale3.80GoodGravity dispense
Brockley - Pale Ale4.10Good
Westerham - Grasshopper Kentish Bitter3.80Not Tried
Adur - Black William5.00Not Tried
Kent - Cobnut4.10Not Tried
Twickenham (also uses sub-brand Old Hands) - Vanguard4.10Not Tried
Ha'Penny - Hewitt's Un-hung Hero5.00Not Tried
Slater's - Sorachi Ace3.20Not Tried
Kent - Bramling Cross Single Hop4.50Not Tried
26 Mar 2013 (Philip Pirrip)
Albeit late evening but almost deserted.
BeerABVScoreNotes
Okell's - Castletown Pale4.00GoodPerhaps in pipes a while. Nothing like the viciously bitter Castletown Bitter of the 1980s
Ascot - Alligator Ale4.60Not Tried
Sambrook's - Wandle3.80Not Tried
Twickenham (also uses sub-brand Old Hands) - Gothick Dark4.60Not Tried
East London (ELB) - Pale Ale4.00Not Tried
Kelham Island - Pride of Sheffield4.00Not Tried
Everards - Truman's Runner4.00Not Tried
Florence - Titfer (branded as A Head In A Hat Brewing)3.50Not Tried
Clarence & Fredericks - Golden Ale3.80Not Tried
Franklins - Pudding Stout4.20Not Tried
25 Mar 2013 (Stephen Harris)
Deep into uncharted South London to meet my friend Kevin here after work. It is a large pub, with a good guest beer policy and a commendable 50p per pint reduction for CAMRA card holders. But it is very quiet on a chilly early Monday evening.
BeerABVScoreNotes
Clarence & Fredericks - Golden Ale3.80ExcellentIím growing a liking for this full-bodied pale ale.
Franklins - Pudding Stout4.20AcceptableIím afraid that I have not been greatly impressed by the Franklinís beers Iíve tried so far. This is a dark beer with a dominant caramel sweetness plus a bit of roasted barley.
Sambrook's - Wandle3.80Not Tried
Twickenham (also uses sub-brand Old Hands) - Gothick Dark4.60Not Tried
East London (ELB) - Pale Ale4.00Not Tried
Kelham Island - Pride of Sheffield4.00Not Tried
Everards - Truman's Runner4.00Not Tried
Florence - Titfer (branded as A Head In A Hat Brewing)3.50Not Tried
Okell's - Castletown Pale4.00Not Tried
14 Nov 2012 (Philip Pirrip)
Evening.
BeerABVScoreNotes
By The Horns - Lambeth Walk5.10Excellent
Westerham - Spirit of Kent XXX Pale Ale4.00GoodStarted well but found it lost its intensity of nose and flavour quickly
Adnams - Broadside4.70Not Tried
Purity - Pure Gold3.80Not Tried
Royal Tunbridge Wells - Royal Best Bitter4.10Not Tried
Dorking - DB Winter Ruby5.20Not Tried
Sambrook's - Pumphouse Pale Ale4.20Not Tried
London Fields - Love Not War4.20Not Tried
Kissingate - Smelter's Stout5.10Not Tried
Kissingate - Toffee Cog5.50Not Tried

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About The Grape & Grain

The pub sign. The Grape & Grain, Crystal Palace, Greater London

Summary of Beer Scores

 Total
Exceptional2
Excellent7
Good15
Acceptable7
Poor-

Website.

The pub is found in Crystal Palace, Greater London, SE19 2AA.

Situated just up the hill from Crystal Palace railway station, this street corner pub has had a number of different names over the years. It currently offers a good range of beers, comfortable seating, and bar billiards. There is a stage for regular live music - often including a full jazz band. 12 handpumps on the bar in 3 banks of 4. Ciders on handpump and in boxes in a chilled cabinet behind the bar. Reported in Summer 2014 that J.D. Wetherspoon had purchased the freehold but will not take over the pub's running until the current lease expires although subsequently a planning application from JDW for changes has been made.

We have visited this pub 14 times, seen 82 different beers and tried 28 of them.

Map location

Postcode: SE19 2AA